Natasha Romanoff and my problems with her
Dec. 9th, 2019 08:06 pmI like Natasha Romanoff as played by Scarlett Johanson in several MCU movies. She smart, capable, good with people, a good friend, can be both a loyal comrade and a leader in emergency, and, of course can kick asses and take names at the same time. I have never read any comics with her, so I have no idea about how true she is to her comics counterpart or anything.
But I do have several problems with her portrayal and her story in MCU and I am not really looking forward to her upcoming movie. I have a feeling that the writers and directors didn’t quite know what to do with her character, and only did some cool things by accident.
1) Romance is horrible. I have no idea who and how came up with the idea of Natasha/Bruce romance, but for me it’s one of the worst parts of MCU, and I blame Joss Whedon, because as a self-proclaimed feminist he should have known better.
Natasha and Bruce have no chemistry and no pull of any kind. I mean, Bruce, as palyed by Mark Ruffalo has great chemistry with Tony, with Thor and Valkyrie (both as Bruce and Hulk with those two). Natasha is great with Pepper, Hawkeye and his wife, Steve…. Even Okoye, for two minutes they share the screen. I wouldn’t mind seeing her having a polyamory family with the Bartons. But then again, she didn’t need any romance at all, she is fine just wielding a power of friendship. I mean, my favorite Natasha scenes are her with Steve in Winter Soldier.
With Bruce she is suddenly boring and sad that she cannot have children. And the whole power of lullaby and the rest.. bleargh
2) Her history. Maybe because she didn’t have an origin movie and the definite origin story in the MCU, or because her comic origin are so weird and hard to update, but I am close to tearing my hair out every time Natasha says anything about begin Russian or have that part of her family addressed. I want to like having a great Russian character in MCU, but the fact is, there is nothing Russian in Natasha that we saw.
“Regimes fall every day. I tend not to weep over that, I'm Russian. Or I used to be.”
That phrase makes no sense whatsoever. It would be the contrary, I think. Regimes don’t fall that often in Russia for her to be so blasé about it. I mean, she might be blasé about it, but not because she is Russian (ethnically or culturally), but because due to her previous line of work she helped to fall some of them. That I could buy, but it’s not what she said. I mean, Joss Whedon is famous for his dialogues, but half of stuff Natasha says in Avengers directed by him, makes little sense.
And her name is weird for Russian eye and ear. Natasha, Natalia is great, it’s one of my grandmothers’ name. But “otchestvo”, name formed out of her fathers’ one? Makes no sense. Again, sometimes Russian names look weird transcribed in other languages’s alphabets, sure. Some people have rare and unusual names, sure. But it still looks more like a random selection of letters than actual names. Unless it the Black Widow movie it starts to make perfect sense. Her last name… Romanoff. I get it, it’s a comic convention. But it suggest immigration that happened in 18-early 20th centuries, not now. Now it would be Romanova or Romanov. And it was still fine, until the Black Widow movie that has Elena Belova as a character. Then it becomes really jarring.
Basically, all that Russian part of MCU makes no sense (Agent Carter has it really bad, BTW), and I suspect it will have even less sense after the Black Widow movie.
3) Her end in the “Endgame”. Ok, it might have made sense from Natasha’s POV to try and die for her friend – because Natasha is the best friend anyone can have, but from the story perspective – it was wrong to kill of Natasha instead of Clint and even worse not to acknowledge it properly. And Yes, people die all the time for many reasons, way before we are ready to let them go, but it was not what the story was about. It was such a waste, I am still sad about stupidity of it.
But I do have several problems with her portrayal and her story in MCU and I am not really looking forward to her upcoming movie. I have a feeling that the writers and directors didn’t quite know what to do with her character, and only did some cool things by accident.
1) Romance is horrible. I have no idea who and how came up with the idea of Natasha/Bruce romance, but for me it’s one of the worst parts of MCU, and I blame Joss Whedon, because as a self-proclaimed feminist he should have known better.
Natasha and Bruce have no chemistry and no pull of any kind. I mean, Bruce, as palyed by Mark Ruffalo has great chemistry with Tony, with Thor and Valkyrie (both as Bruce and Hulk with those two). Natasha is great with Pepper, Hawkeye and his wife, Steve…. Even Okoye, for two minutes they share the screen. I wouldn’t mind seeing her having a polyamory family with the Bartons. But then again, she didn’t need any romance at all, she is fine just wielding a power of friendship. I mean, my favorite Natasha scenes are her with Steve in Winter Soldier.
With Bruce she is suddenly boring and sad that she cannot have children. And the whole power of lullaby and the rest.. bleargh
2) Her history. Maybe because she didn’t have an origin movie and the definite origin story in the MCU, or because her comic origin are so weird and hard to update, but I am close to tearing my hair out every time Natasha says anything about begin Russian or have that part of her family addressed. I want to like having a great Russian character in MCU, but the fact is, there is nothing Russian in Natasha that we saw.
“Regimes fall every day. I tend not to weep over that, I'm Russian. Or I used to be.”
That phrase makes no sense whatsoever. It would be the contrary, I think. Regimes don’t fall that often in Russia for her to be so blasé about it. I mean, she might be blasé about it, but not because she is Russian (ethnically or culturally), but because due to her previous line of work she helped to fall some of them. That I could buy, but it’s not what she said. I mean, Joss Whedon is famous for his dialogues, but half of stuff Natasha says in Avengers directed by him, makes little sense.
And her name is weird for Russian eye and ear. Natasha, Natalia is great, it’s one of my grandmothers’ name. But “otchestvo”, name formed out of her fathers’ one? Makes no sense. Again, sometimes Russian names look weird transcribed in other languages’s alphabets, sure. Some people have rare and unusual names, sure. But it still looks more like a random selection of letters than actual names. Unless it the Black Widow movie it starts to make perfect sense. Her last name… Romanoff. I get it, it’s a comic convention. But it suggest immigration that happened in 18-early 20th centuries, not now. Now it would be Romanova or Romanov. And it was still fine, until the Black Widow movie that has Elena Belova as a character. Then it becomes really jarring.
Basically, all that Russian part of MCU makes no sense (Agent Carter has it really bad, BTW), and I suspect it will have even less sense after the Black Widow movie.
3) Her end in the “Endgame”. Ok, it might have made sense from Natasha’s POV to try and die for her friend – because Natasha is the best friend anyone can have, but from the story perspective – it was wrong to kill of Natasha instead of Clint and even worse not to acknowledge it properly. And Yes, people die all the time for many reasons, way before we are ready to let them go, but it was not what the story was about. It was such a waste, I am still sad about stupidity of it.