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I wasn’t sure whether I should post it, and then I did it – filtered and all, because sometimes I need to see my thoughts written to clear them out of my brain. There were several (or one big) kerfuffles the last summer about constructive critiques vs. hate vs. being nice, and I was thinking about what I love and don’t love and why…

And sometimes my dislikes have nothing constructive in it – I just don’t like the author’s version of the Universe or the characters. And I see no good reason to write the author about it.

Ok, here it is. I strongly dislike [livejournal.com profile] herself_nyc’s Bittersweets series. I read all up to the “Buffy in Italy” story – I don’t remember its name precisely – and then I stopped. I realized two things: 1) I really don’t like it. 2) I don’t have to torture myself then.

Why did I read it so far? Well, it is an amazing story. I have a deep respect for the skills and craft, and I admire the style and plotting – in the abstract way. Besides, every new story is an event in fandom from the first chapter with all the revisions and discussions, and I, being a sheep, wanted to know how it is going. Plus, the sex scenes are good. ;)

Also, I quite liked Herself’s “What she deserves” and “Lovingkindness” Universe.

But I don’t like Spike and Buffy there, and I don’t like what is going on with them. It is not even all the babies… it is all the mental torture, and how they don’t change forever, and other characters are pale shadows without making sense to me. They never change. Spike is always a martyr of love; Buffy is always a broken girl who doesn’t really deserve him.
And even the Victorian story, that everyone loves and which was one of the first fics I read ever, apart from amazing period details doesn’t rub well with me.

I don’t like Herself’s Spike and Herself’s Buffy. They are not bad, but they feel utterly alien and wrong to me. Recently I understood why: they belong to high tragedy; or, since their story ends reasonably well, to classical moral drama. They are deadly serious – in bliss and sorrow, in trouble and everyday life. Humour doesn’t exist in their universe.
Now, my Spike and Buffy make fun of each other – from School hard to Chosen and beyond, more over, they make fun of themselves. They mock and tease and laugh; they could be cruel and gently, and they changed. They are still changing.

So, yeah… not much sense, but I feel better.

Date: 2004-12-09 01:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] molly_may
Herself lost me when Buffy lost that leg.

That was the point when I gave up too, although I've read bits and pieces of the later stories, and like I mentioned in my comment to [livejournal.com profile] avrelia, I'm skimming the most recent story. But Buffy losing the leg just seemed like needless character torture, one more misery heaped on top of her. I've never actually read the infamous "Buffy beats Spike with the prosthetic leg" chapter either, and I think I'm pretty happy about that.

Personally, I was disgusted when Mr Perfect Father allowed himself to be beat up by Buffy in front of his daughter. What the hell does that teach a child?!

That's the other thing that gets me, that Buffy, who always shouldered every responsibility handed to her and who loved and protected her family and friends above all else even when they didn't treat her as well as they could have, is a terrible, cold mother, while flighty, violent, irresponsible Spike is the world's best daddy. And you know I love Spike and am well aware of all of his good qualities. But I wouldn't trust him to take care of my cat, much less a child.

Date: 2004-12-09 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asta77.livejournal.com
And you know I love Spike and am well aware of all of his good qualities. But I wouldn't trust him to take care of my cat, much less a child.

Hee! Yeah, while I could see him caring for Dawn who was relatively self-sufficient I always had a hard time envisioning him changing diapers and giving bottles. It just doesn't seem like it would fit well into his lifestyle.

Date: 2004-12-11 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com
But I wouldn't trust him to take care of my cat, much less a child.

YEah, I have to agree with you on it.
Come to think of, that accident with Miss Kitty Fantastico? Spike probably trained Dawn to use crossbow...

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