Cross-dressing in popular literature
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In another place people were asking about fantasy or sf novel in which a heroine pretends to be a man or a hero pretends to be a woman.
I thought I would remember more such stories, but I didn’t.
So I decided to pick your brain and check whether you know more.
Here is what I remembered:
Tamora Pierce, Song of the Lioness
Terry Pratchett, Monstrous Regiment
Then, of course, Eowyn pretends to be a man to combat the forces of Mordor.
Those are neither fantasy nor sf, but are good with cross-dressing:
Gillian Bradshaw, Beacon at Alexandria
Georgette Heyer, The Corinthian
The Masqueraders
These Old Shades
And yet I am sure there are more. Have you read any? Can you recommend anything? Any genre works, if you read it or heard that it is good.
Are there any stories where a man pretends to be a woman (I can immediately name several movies, but no books.)?
There are, of course, classical cases – myths, Shakespeare, folklore, biographies, but I am curious about contemporary books. Can you recommend any?
I thought I would remember more such stories, but I didn’t.
So I decided to pick your brain and check whether you know more.
Here is what I remembered:
Tamora Pierce, Song of the Lioness
Terry Pratchett, Monstrous Regiment
Then, of course, Eowyn pretends to be a man to combat the forces of Mordor.
Those are neither fantasy nor sf, but are good with cross-dressing:
Gillian Bradshaw, Beacon at Alexandria
Georgette Heyer, The Corinthian
The Masqueraders
These Old Shades
And yet I am sure there are more. Have you read any? Can you recommend anything? Any genre works, if you read it or heard that it is good.
Are there any stories where a man pretends to be a woman (I can immediately name several movies, but no books.)?
There are, of course, classical cases – myths, Shakespeare, folklore, biographies, but I am curious about contemporary books. Can you recommend any?
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Date: 2009-04-24 09:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-04-24 09:41 pm (UTC)Also not sure if this qualifies (that's going to be a recurring theme...) but what about Iain Banks's The Wasp Factory? That's at least approaching the sci-fi/fantasy boundary...
ETA: And I'm guessing that some manga would feature this, some of which would be fantasy/sci-fi?
I found this likely list.
Oh! *palmface* I can't believe I didn't remember this. The Breeds of Man by FM Busby is set in a world that managed to produce a vaccine for HIV... and, a few years after it has been distributed to everyone, they discover the side-effect: sterility. So then the scientists work to solve that, and end up producing babies... that change sex depending on whether or not they're near someone's ovulation cycle. It's a bit pulpy, but that's why I love it (it's an 80s trashy sci-fi novel), and most of the kids, having been assumed to be boys or girls and then experiencing a change mid-way, spend the rest of the time pretending to be boys (or girls), in order not to let their secret escape.
Plus there's explosions.
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Date: 2009-04-24 10:07 pm (UTC)I should remember more, this trope is an obsession of mine, but off the top of my head:
Marion Zimmer Bradley - Hawkmistress. sf/f that has a girl pretending to be a boy and being rejected by her love interest when he finds out she isn't. Set in the Darkover universe. Written in the '80s, I'd think.
Lane Robins - Maledicte. Fantasy of manners, sort of, with Miranda disguising herself as courtier Maledicte in the course of revenging herself on the noble that stole her lover. Recent. (2006-ish).
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Date: 2009-04-24 10:45 pm (UTC)Naomi Novik's Temeraire series has several females passing as males, although none of them are protagonists. In the series' world, 1800s Britain, female aviators have to hide their femaleness most of the time.
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Date: 2009-04-25 03:55 am (UTC)The Ouran High School Host Club manga/anime has a female protagonist disguised as a boy. And her father is a cross-dresser.
Y: The Last Man (sci-fi graphic novel series by Brian Vaughn) has the male protagonist trying to pass as female in a post-apocalyptic Earth where all other males have died.
It's been a while, but I recall a secondary character in Joan Vinge's The Summer Queen being an androgynous girl passing as a boy. I believe her name was Ananke.
And Sarah Waters' Tipping the Velvet has a heroine who passes as a rentboy for a time, although it's pure historical fiction.
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Date: 2009-04-25 04:51 am (UTC)Heh, I don't know/can't remember anything contemporary. Shakespeare's 12th Night is the only thing that comes to mind. And Monstrous Regiment.
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Date: 2009-04-25 11:19 am (UTC)I feel like I should know a lot more books like this but cannot think of any right now. Does it have to be the hero or heroine?
I'll have to think some more on this.
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Date: 2009-04-26 03:16 am (UTC)Sadly, I can't remember the name or author! (I thought the name of the novel was "Nadia" but Google's turning up nothing there.)
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Date: 2009-04-26 05:55 pm (UTC)I polled a couple of likely friends last night. These aren't all SF/F, but they're all approved of by fans of SF/F...and they might not all have crossdressing per se, because it's been a while since we've read them, but if there's no crossdressing, there's other sorts of genderqueer. :)
The Bone Doll's Twin - Lynn Flewelling
The Alanna Series - Tamara Pierce
Outlaws of Sherwood - Robin McKinley
Privilege of the Sword - Ellen Kushner
Through a Glass Darkly - Delia Sherman
Hawkmistress's Apprentice - Marion Zimmer Bradley
The Passion - Jeanette Winterson
Godstalk - P.C. Hodgell
The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle - Avi
Seven Daughters and Seven Sons - Barbara Cohen
The Beekeeper's Apprentice - Laurie King
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Date: 2009-04-26 08:45 pm (UTC)One I've read recently is more YA - Here Lies Arthur by Philip Reeve, a story about, you guessed it, King Arthur, very realistically told. The main character is a young girl who is disguised as a boy by necessity first, and later switches between genders depending on the situation. There is another character, who is also a cross-dresser, and in general the book deals with elements of appearance and reality. I liked it.